Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Yorga · Post by **Yorga** » 06 Sep 2008, 20:37

I've been having some fun with my old corruption deck recently, and realised I never posted it here. I've just been making some modifications to add in a few older cards, so here's v1.something and v2

(both decks look very master-heavy, but the Serpentis masters can be discarded or used as "action modifiers" when recruiting weenies, and anthelios allows them to be traded for e.g. tribute)

Deck Name : Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Author : Ed Trollope
Description :
Block?

Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 2 max: 6 average: 4.16667
2x Hesha Ruhadze (6) :SER: :ani:

bf: :pre: Follower of Set (group 2)
2x Dedefra (5) :SER: :nec:

bf: Follower of Set (group 2)
2x Celine Chevalier (3)

bf: :ser: Follower of Set (group 2)
2x Lalitha (2) :ser: Follower of Set (group 2)
1x Ezekiel, Lord of Montreal (6)

RE: :SER:

bf: :pot: Follower of Set (group 3)
1x Count Ormonde (5) :OBF: :dom: :pre: :ser: Follower of Set (group 2)
1x Nepata (4)

bf: :pre: :ser: Follower of Set (group 2)
1x Khalil Anvari (3) :pre: :ser: Follower of Set (group 2)

Library [90 cards]

Master [21]
1x Crocodile Temple, The
2x Heidelberg Castle, Germany
1x Inbase Discotek, Frankfurt
2x Khobar Towers, Al-Khubar
2x Opium Den
1x Path of Typhon, The
1x Retribution
7x Serpentis
4x Tribute to the Master

Action [32]
17x Corruption
2x Form of Corruption
2x Lure of the Serpent
4x Temptation
7x Waters of Duat

Action Modifier [31]
10x Change of Target
2x Forgotten Labyrinth
4x Lost in Crowds
6x Revelation of Desire
9x Venenation

Action Modifier/Combat [4]
4x Form of the Serpent

Equipment [1]
1x Book of Going Forth by Night, The

Event [1]
1x Anthelios, The Red Star

Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Sat Sep 06 20:27:33 2008]

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Deck Name : Damned if you do, damned if you don't v2
Author : Ed Trollope
Description :
v2 features the g4/5 vampires instead of the g2/3 of the original design, with roughly the same spread of capacities and ser/SER. This gives some access to dominate, and I've added 3x poison pill after losing 19 pool to cross-table anarchist uprisings in one game!

This version concentrates (even more) on the corrupt & bleed offence, and neglects obfuscate entirely. Without the extra stealth, temptation and FoC become less easy to get past the predator, so they have been replaced with the new "The Eternal Mask" for +1 bleed at +1 stealth. The superior version has great synergy with Khobar Towers too, if I get the opportunity!

Without temptations, the associated masters (Heidelberg, croc temple and retribution) can also be dropped to make room for other things.

Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 2 max: 7 average: 4.66667
2x Ankh-sen-Sutekh (6)

RE: :SER:

bf: Follower of Set (group 4)
2x Zhenga (5) :SER:

bf: :pre: Follower of Set (group 4)
1x Amenophobis (7) :OBF: :SER: :dom: :pre: primogen Follower of Set (group 4)
1x Halim Bey (6)

OM: :SER:

bf: :tha: Follower of Set (group 4)
1x Black Lotus (5)

OM: :aus:

bf: :ser: Follower of Set (group 4)
1x Marla Kenyon (4)

RE: :ser: Follower of Set (group 4)
1x Sahira Siraj (4)

bf: :ser: :tha: Follower of Set (group 4)
1x Ahmose Chambers (3)

bf: :ser: Follower of Set (group 5)
1x Reverend Djoser Jones (3) :pre: :ser: Follower of Set (group 4)
1x Belle Equitone (2) :ser: Follower of Set (group 4)

Library [90 cards]

Master [21]
1x Archon Investigation
1x Inbase Discotek, Frankfurt
2x Khobar Towers, Al-Khubar
2x Opium Den
2x Path of Typhon, The
8x Serpentis
1x Temple Hunting Ground
4x Tribute to the Master

Action [30]
16x Corruption
6x Eternal Mask, The
8x Waters of Duat

Action Modifier [26]
10x Change of Target
6x Revelation of Desire
10x Venenation

Action Modifier/Combat [4]
4x Form of the Serpent

Event [1]
1x Anthelios, The Red Star

Reaction [8]
3x Poison Pill
3x Redirection
2x Wake with Evening's Freshness

Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Sat Sep 06 20:27:23 2008]

xcver · Post by **xcver** » 07 Sep 2008, 18:43

What about Cave of Apples?

Sure it costs 3 pool, but you don't need any Corruption cards then and cut just cut one down for it.

Nordlicht76 · Post by **Nordlicht76** » 08 Sep 2008, 07:33

xcver wrote:What about Cave of Apples?

Sure it costs 3 pool, but you don't need any Corruption cards then and cut just cut one down for it.

But it works only on younger Vampires, that can be a Problem....

xcver · Post by **xcver** » 08 Sep 2008, 07:41

Nordlicht76 wrote:
xcver wrote:What about Cave of Apples?

Sure it costs 3 pool, but you don't need any Corruption cards then and cut just cut one down for it.
But it works only on younger Vampires, that can be a Problem....

Und Allies und hat kein Stealth. Aber irgendwie finde ich es trotzdem gut

schweinebacke · Post by **schweinebacke** » 08 Sep 2008, 13:24

16 corruption auf 90 Karten sind zu wenige. Ich kenne vergleichbare Decks mit 50/50 Corruptions

Post by **Johannes** » 08 Sep 2008, 14:52

xcver wrote:What about Cave of Apples?

Sure it costs 3 pool, but you don't need any Corruption cards then and cut just cut one down for it.

Ich finde die Karte "komisch". Man kann sich nicht unbedingt drauf verlassen, da man ja wohl keine 10 in ein Deck packt. Das heisst man wird mit ausreichend Corruptions spielen. Dann ist die Karte aber eine Master für 3 pool die was macht was das Deck eh schon kann. Nicht so der Bringer, finde ich.

xcver · Post by **xcver** » 08 Sep 2008, 18:25

Johannes wrote:
xcver wrote:What about Cave of Apples?

Sure it costs 3 pool, but you don't need any Corruption cards then and cut just cut one down for it.
Ich finde die Karte "komisch". Man kann sich nicht unbedingt drauf verlassen, da man ja wohl keine 10 in ein Deck packt. Das heisst man wird mit ausreichend Corruptions spielen. Dann ist die Karte aber eine Master für 3 pool die was macht was das Deck eh schon kann. Nicht so der Bringer, finde ich.

Als One off finde ich sie ganz plausibel

Yorga · Post by **Yorga** » 11 Sep 2008, 17:45

I considered Cave of Apples, but it just doesn't fit into the deck. Under too many circumstances it uses a valuable discard phase so as to avoid it becoming a waste of both a valuable master action and 3 pool. I usually expect to have approx 8-10 minions by endgame, with an average cap of 3 (the waters bring down the avg from of those in the crypt)

16 corruptions (+10 venenations) isn't enough to steal all the minions on the table, but that's not the goal of the deck. It is enough to steal the occasional vampire to feed to the towers for survival whilst your horde grows and bleeds for 5 at stealth, though.

This deck can cycle hideously fast though, it's easily the deck I'm most likely to run out of cards with (except for an experiment with mata hari and burn options which doesn't really count) so I might reduce the reactions from 8 down to 6... but I'd probably replace the two forgotten labyrinth rather than add more corruptions. Or maybe a parthenon.